Obviously, the magnum wins this one hands down. LIST OF CARTRIDGES AND LOADS (bullet weight and MV - 100 yard KPS): .32-20 Winchester (100 grain at MV 1210 fps) - 2.6, .327 Federal Magnum (Rifle) (100 grain at MV 2000 fps) - 6.2, .223 Remington (64 grain at MV 3020 fps) - 7.2, .30 Carbine (110 grain at MV 1990 fps) - 7.4, .22-250 Remington (55 grain at MV 3680 fps) - 8.0, .220 Swift (55 grain at MV 3680 fps) - 8.0, .223 Remington (68 grain at MV 2960 fps) - 8.4, .223 Remington (75 grain at MV 2790 fps) - 9.2, .357 Magnum (Rifle) (180 grain at MV 1550 fps) - 9.5, .22-250 Remington (64 grain at MV 3500 fps) - 9.7, .223 WSSM (64 grain at MV 3600 fps) - 10.1, .220 Swift (64 grain at MV 3600 fps) - 10.1, .44-40 Winchester (200 grain at MV 1190 fps) - 10.1, .44-40 Winchester (200 grain at MV 1310 fps) - 11.0, .25-35 Winchester (117 grain at MV 2230 fps) - 11.9, .357 Magnum (Rifle) (158 grain at MV 1830 fps) - 12.7, .30-30 Winchester (Light) (125 grain at MV 2175 fps) - 12.9, .25-35 Winchester (110 grain at MV 2425 fps) - 14.4, .300 Blackout (125 grain at MV 2175 fps) - 14.5, .300 Blackout (135 grain at MV 2085 fps) - 14.9, .250 Savage (100 grain at MV 2820 fps) - 15.1, 7.62x39 Soviet (123 grain at MV 2365 fps) - 15.7, .257 Roberts +P (117 grain at MV 2650 fps) - 17.9, 6.8mm Rem. As can be seen in the maximum velocity comparison chart, the 85-year-old .300 H&H Magnum sends a 180-grain bullet on its way about as fast as the .300 WSM, and the .300 Win. So what it comes down to to me is .300 Win Mag vs 300 Weatherby. Moving to heavier game, I have taken a very large pile of elk and moose with a number of cartridges ranging in calibers from .270 to .416, and I'll just be darned if I can see that anything kills either any deader or more quickly than a .300 magnum loaded with the right bullet. 100 yards was chosen as a reasonable distance at which to compare rifle cartridges and loads, since most big game is killed within or around that distance. I know of at least one record set decades ago by a competitor using a rifle in .222 Rem. I am sorta surprised that quite a few people think the 257 may be a better choice. The short and fat .300 magnums are no better than other magnums of the same caliber, but the author likes them because by working in a short action, they help trim ounces from lightweight rifles like the Browning A-Bolt Mountain Ti in .300 WSM (top) and the Remington Mode. To avoid a Ford vs Chevy debate, letâs stipulate that the rifle I have selected is available in both chamberings. Match bullet. Roy Weatherby already had experience with other custom cartridges such as his own .270 Weatherby Magnum when he created the .300 Weatherby. The 300 Weatherby Magnum had the flattest trajectory, longest range and the greatest killing power of any 300 magnum on the market until the 30-378 Weatherby Magnum came along. On the other hand, most experienced North American elk hunters would probably suggest full power .270 Winchester loads (KPS 35+) as a practical minimum. It does, however, give a general idea of the comparative killing power of various hunting cartridges and loads. A poor shot with the .300 Weatherby is far less effective than a single and perhaps rather easily well placed shot with a .308. Additionally, itâs an extremely accurate cartridge that may even have a slight edge on the .30-06 in that regard. Recoil: Recoil is far less in a 308 than a 300 win mag. I am saying all this to say that whether or not a cartridge has a belt on its case is of no importance. However, conditions are seldom perfect in the real world and it is foolhardy to use an inadequate or marginal cartridge for hunting when there are so many better choices. For similar reasons, and being more conservative, Guns and Shooting Online Cutlery Editor Gary Zinn uses a minimum KPS of 15.0 for hunting Class 2 game in most of his rifle articles. Left to Right: .300 H&H Magnum, .30 Newton, .300. It also tends to confirm some long held beliefs. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .300 Weatherby Magnum vs .300 Winchester Magnum ammo rounds. Round off to one decimal place for convenience. At the benchrest, I find the .300 H&H and .300 WSM a tad more comfortable to shoot, and while the .300 Win. Mag. When it comes to magnum cartridges of .30 caliber, there seems to be no middle ground among hunters. Then we have the matter of recoil. Was shooting Weatherby 257 Magnum, purchased First Lite in 6.5 300, bore sighted, straight out of box first 3 shots 1 inch high with grouping touching each other. A look at the efficiency comparison chart on page 56 backs up that opinion with fact, but are the differences enough to really matter? When hunting brown bear in really thick country, one of the most comforting things you can have on your team is a rifle with a very large hole down the center of its barrel and a magazine full of big, fat, heavy bullets. When first introduced in 1944, this cartridge developed a reputation for âexcessiveâ recoil and unpredictable results on game. So will the lowly .22 LR rimfire cartridge. Instead, most who shoot a magnum cartridge continue to stick with the .300 Win. Bottom line is, you are in good company regardless of which .300 magnum you choose. ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. For that, I believe one of the .338-caliber magnums is better than any .30, and a .35 might be a tad better still. The rifle will be a JP Sauer, Weatherby, or Sako. Choose the lowest price from our multiple warehouses. holds about 48.6 grains of water. I have no experience with the Bergara, but do with Weatherby Vanguard. Since the .400/375 and .375 H&H cases have virtually no shoulder and the shoulder of the .300 H&H is long and mildly tapered, the British figured all needed a belt for positive headspacing, and they were right. Mag., an additional pound of powder is required for each 1,400 rounds loaded. Here's an objective look at the vaunted .30-caliber magnums. We look at the futuristic .450 Bushmaster and how it compares to the tried and true .45-70. Long experience has shown the .44-40 200 grain/1310 fps MV load (KPS 11.0) and traditional .25-35 117 grain/2230 fps MV load (KPS 11.9) are adequate 100 yard deer cartridges, provided the hunter drives the bullet directly into the vitals. Wins For the 308. While the belt was unnecessary on most of those cartridges, it spelled high performance to many hunters, and for that reason it sold lots of rifles and ammunition through the years. We then have a substantial jump between that cartridge and the .300 Remington Ultra Mag. I actually prefer the .375 H&H. Stuff the.300 with about 73 grains of IMR 4831 powder, and it should kick that bullet out at 3,150 fps. Subscriber Services. Remington specifically states that their Managed Recoil .30-30 load is a 100 yard deer cartridge. Left to Right: .300 H&H Magnum, .30 Newton, .300 Weatherby Magnum, .308 Norma Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 WSM, .300 Remington SAUM, .300 Remington Ultra Mag, .30-378 Weatherby Magnum. The 300 Weatherby just starts to come into its own with the 180 grain bullets which would kill the .308 in â¦ Violate this principle by, for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the .300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. The joys of handloading are many, and one of them is sharing the experience with a novice. James Tarr runs through the 3-Second Headshot drill. Here is the G&S Online Killing Power Formula used to compile this list: Energy at 100 yards (in foot pounds) x Sectional Density (taken from reloading manuals) x cross-sectional Area (in square inches) = Killing Power Score at 100 yards. The new Benelli Lupo bolt-action rifle is just as unique, innovative, and performance-oriented... Tom Beckstrand and Neal Emery of Hornady highlight the 6MM Creedmoor ammo. Based on the 300 H&H Magnum, the 300 Weatherby delivers 300 more fps than its British cousin. Effective, efficient, and affordable, the .375 Ruger and .416 Ruger are two of the best... Give a Gift
David Fortier talks with Jeff Hoffman of Black Hills Ammunition about the evolution of the .308 Win. Around 70 years later, and the round is still consider one of the world's blistering hot magnums. Ammo By Manufacturer Qualified Professional Ammo. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bulle The cartridge was developed in response to a US Army military contract in 1959. If someone eventually proves me wrong and a .30-caliber magnum on a short, stubby case actually is slightly more accurate than one on a long, slim case, the difference will be so slight that only benchrest rifles will be able to prove it on paper. A KPS of 30 corresponds well with a Hornady HITS score over 901, which the experts at Hornady consider the minimum for use on large game. I have one in 300 Win Mag that I can't get to shoot consistently. Both died very quickly. Do recoil energy figures on paper accurately equate to actually shooting those cartridges? And when it comes to delivering a deadly blow to a target standing way out yonder, case capacity wins out over case efficiency every time. While the 257 weatherby mag is perfectly capable of killing elk I would consider it to be way down the list of fine elk rounds. Having spent the time and effort to devise a rifle cartridge killing power formula that has a positive correlation with actual results in the field, it seemed appropriate to use that formula to compare the killing power of various hunting rifle cartridges and loads. The FactsThe belted case was a British idea that originated with the .400/375 Belted Nitro Express in 1905, and it was later used in the development of the .375 H&H and .300 H&H Magnums. Itâs got class, panache, and performance in spades, and is actually the oldest veteran in this group. Though both cartridges utilize .308â³ bullets, the .300 Win Mag is also better suited for using heavier bullets in the 200-220 grain range than the .30-06. I have thought about this topic quite abit today. The Winchester .350 Legend is a no-nonsense whitetail thumper tailored for rifle hunters in... A half-century in the making, the new DGX Bonded is Hornady's best-ever dangerous-game bullet. I had it examined by my gunsmith and he couldn't get it â¦ When it comes to magnum cartridges of .30 caliber, there seems to be no middle ground among hunters. Short Magnum. Short Magnum .30-30 WCF ... 308 Norma Mag 338 Norma Magnum. Hornady .300 PRC (left) and .300 WBY.300 Weatherby Magnum vs. Hornady .300 PRC. Very sensibly, Winchester did not attempt to compete with the far more powerful and much harder-kicking.300 Weatherby Magnum. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. I believe more experienced hunters will agree that the question is too complicated for such simple answers, and accurate conclusions can be made only after a close look at a few details. There is no comparison. Mag. Truth of the matter is, most hunters who choose a magnum cartridge want the highest performance available and few think twice about cartridge efficiency. Obviously, even among vastly experienced game departments, there is plenty of disagreement about rifle cartridge killing power! Best Rimfire Cartridges — .22 Magnum vs .22 Long Rifle, .375 Ruger & .416 Ruger — Big Bore Cartridges, Black Hills Evolution of Rifle Cartridge: .308 Win. We ping steel with a .300 WinMag at over a mile. The above list is only approximate, as a great variety of loads are possible for any centerfire rifle cartridge and no method of estimating killing power is infallible. Jeff-I did a lot of testing and load development with .300 Weatherby. In addition to being easy to work with, the 6mm PPC is incredibly accurate, but had benchresters stayed with the .222 Rem., they would still be setting new accuracy records simply because actions, barrels, bullets, powders, and shooters have continued to improve through the years. It is into this market that Weatherby unleashed the worldâs fastest production 6.5 mm cartridgeâthe 6.5-300 Wby. But I do not for one minute think they have made other .300 magnums obsolete. Consider cartridges/loads scoring below KPS 11.0, at whatever you consider their maximum effective range to be, as small game and varmint cartridges. The.308 Win. The .300 SAUM is why my Remington Model Seven feels like a .308 but hits like a .300 H&H. It was for this reason that I purchased the Weatherby Mark V 6.5-300. Introduced in 1944, this is the all-around cartridge for the big game hunter. The G&S Online Rifle Cartridge Killing Power Formula and List, The G&S Online Rifle Cartridge Killing Power Formula: Implications and Applications, Determining The Effective Killing Range of Rifle Cartridges. Their KPS scores tend to confirm this. I've shot all manner of factory loads and hand loads and it will not shoot less than 2MOA. that has yet to be beaten by the 6mm PPC. Note: Reduced recoil factory loads are marked "Light.". Match. Mag. When it comes to hunting larger game, a great many Class 3 animals have been taken by careful shots using cartridges/loads such as the .30-30/170 grain, 6.5x55/140 grain and 7x57/160 grain. Refine by Caliber: 338 Norma Magnum 33 â¦ All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. It hurts a bit to write this particular comparison, because Iâm really partial to the .300 WBY. Just ask a few brown bear guides in Alaska what they think of the .338 Winchester Magnum and the .375 H&H Magnum, and their answers will likely be quite positive. Big bore semiauto or a lever gun? Therefore, I have chosen to use a minimum KPS of 12.5 for Class 2 game in many of my articles. The .300 Weatherby Magnum was one of Roy Weatherbyâs original cartridges, introduced in 1944. Mag., but it starts to increase as we move up to the faster .300 Weatherby Magnum. For a fascinating, two part analysis in depth of the G&S Online rifle cartridge killing power formula and its ramifications, see the articles The G&S Online Rifle Cartridge Killing Power Formula: Implications and Applications and Determining The Effective Killing Range of Rifle Cartridges by Gary Zinn. When it was first developed the .300 Weatherby Magnum produced nearly unheard of velocities. What 308 and 300 Win Mag are both great at. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Granted, I can only get 3-4 loading per round of brass from this load but I am hard pressed to find loadings of .300 RUM that greatly exceed this performance. In other words, only the individual handloader can decide if the difference in efficiency is enough to make him choose one cartridge over the other. The 6mm PPC wins most benchrest matches today simply because it is the cartridge most benchrest shooters shoot. Some consider them just the ticket for everything that walks, crawls, slithers, flies, and has a leg on each corner. The .300 Weatherby Magnum is a fast, hard-hitting cartridge, driving a 180-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 3250 fps, for over 4,000 ft.-lbs. As illustrated in the recoil comparison chart, there is very little difference in recoil between the .300 H&H Magnum, .300 WSM, and .300 Win. Thanks for the great side-by-side comparison, David. A 100 yard KPS score somewhere in the 30s is probably a reasonable figure for most Class 3 game, although less powerful cartridges/loads have long been used successfully. Promoters of short and stubby .300 magnum cartridges seldom fail to mention that since the 6mm PPC is also short and stubby, they have to be incredibly accurate as well. Hunting rifles, even those capable of half-MOA accuracy would never know which cartridge they are chambered for. My trusty calculator tells me that it takes a pound more powder to load 2,300 rounds of .300 H&H. AccuBond at 2950 fps. Theyâre both readily available at sporting goods stores. Using the .300 Wby. â Gun brand doesnât matter. There is no comparison between the two except to say that they are both .30 caliber. Under those conditions, one shot at a bruin is all you will likely get, and it had better be a good one. As for the few animals in North America that may decide to shoot back, I have taken two Alaska brown bear, one with the .300 Remington Ultra Mag, the other with the .358 Shooting Times Alaskan. Copyright 2017 by Chuck Hawks. However, the Remington Managed Recoil .30-30 125 grain/2175 fps MV (100 yard KPS 12.9) and .357 Magnum (Rifle) 158 grain/1830 fps MV (100 yard KPS 12.7) loads are probably better guides to the minimum practical killing power for Class 2 game with more modern cartridges. As magnum cartridges of .30 caliber go, .300 Weatherby performance is awfully hard to beat, and cartridges such as the .300 Remington Ultra Mag and .30-378 Weatherby Magnum are a bit more of the same. It has the accuracy of the 6.5 Creedmoor and the power of the 300 Win Magâ¦ a nice combination! Magnum Shotshells - Do We Really Need Them? 175 Gr. The Alaskan Game Department considers the .30-06 shooting 220 grain bullets (100 yard KPS 54.6) a reasonable minimum for hunting Alaskan grizzly and brown bears, which are Class 4 (dangerous) animals. Recoil in a 308 is usually around 12 or 13 ft-lbs, while itâs 20+ ft-lbs in a 300 win mag. All rights reserved. Any of the .300 magnums is an excellent choice for all North American game. I think they are a wonderful idea, and I believe there is plenty of room in the hunting scheme of things for each and every one of them. Those guys switched from the long and slim .222 Remington to the short and fat 6mm PPC not necessarily because it was more accurate, but because they wanted to move up to 6mm, and the PPC proved to be the best cartridge of that caliber available. Refine by Caliber: .300 Weatherby Magnum .300 Win. of energy at the muzzle, it is far ahead of the .30-06 Springfield and .300 H&H Magnum. I was not surprised when he said he would rather leave the choice to his customer since he is capable of building a half-MOA big-game rifle chambered for any magnum cartridge ranging from the .300 WSM to the .30-378 Weatherby Magnum. Whether or not the slightly better efficiency of the .300 WSM is worth more than a hill of beans depends on how many rounds are loaded each year. Mag. Description.300 Weatherby 180 grain Barnes Tipped Triple Shock (TTSX)~ Roy Weatherby already had experience with other custom cartridges such as his own .270 Weatherby Magnum when he created the .300 Weatherby.Like most of his other magnum cartridges, this is based on a blown-out .300 H&H Magnum case, using the signature Weatherby double-radius shoulder. They are fine when squeezing the trigger on a bear in an open area, where a follow-up shot can be taken if necessary before the animal makes it to heavy brush. Fourth Place: .300 Weatherby Magnum, 65.0 Points. Caliber: 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum: Capacity: 3+1: Barrel Length: 26in: Lop: 13.6in: Finish: Satin Stainless: Stock: Black w/Gray Webbing Monte Carlo Composite: Sights You can always load down the 300 mag to 308 levels of performance, on deer, but you dont need to do so, given the 25% reductionof recoil by the gas op BAR. Looking at it another way, when the three cartridges are loaded to maximum velocities with 180-grain bullets, the .300 WSM burns an average of 3 grains less powder than the .300 H&H and 5 grains less than the .300 Win. The .308 Winchester performs best with bullets from 150 gr up to 168 gr. Our perception of recoil is influenced by many things, including the shape of a riflestock and how well its pad soaks it up, but if the various .30-caliber magnums are fired in identical rifles, some are more comfortable to shoot than the others under certain circumstances. Refine by Caliber: .300 Win. I can really tell a difference when switching to the .300 Ultra Mag. Others consider them too much for deer and not as good as cartridges of larger calibers on larger game. (These two are approximately equal in killing power at 200 yards.). I have been there on more than one occasion, so believe me when I say magnum cartridges excel for that type of shooting, and those of .30 caliber are among the best. For the .300 Win. Magnum-size cartridges, such as those developed during the early part of the 20th century by Charles Newton, were exceptions, but other magnums that came along after the 1920s had belts on their cases. |
Among these are that the .22 caliber centerfire rifle cartridges are inadequate for any sort of deer hunting; ditto the .25-20, .30 Carbine and .32-20. While it is true that a .300 magnum is a bit much for bumping off a skinny, little, 100-pound southern whitetail deer at ranges we commonly find in thickly forested country, try telling that to hunters who head to Alberta, Canada, where a buck can push 400 pounds on the hoof and the only shot you get after a week of freezing your fanny off may be 400 yards or farther in a strong sidewind. (For more information, see The G&S Online Rifle Cartridge Killing Power Formula and List.). Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to â¦ The .300 Weatherby is not renowned for extreme accuracy, but Boddington has found it plenty accurate enough. I am not alone with this opinion. While writing this I posed the following question to a well-known gunsmith who builds big-game rifles capable of shooting three bullets inside half an inch at 100 yards: "If a customer were to ask you to build the most accurate rifle possible in .300 magnum and left the cartridge choice up to you, which would you choose?" Closest to it in propellant stinginess is the .300 H&H Magnum at 43 fps, while the .300 Winchester Magnum averaged 41 fps. The 300 win mag with 165 gr - 200 gr to me is clearly a better all around big game round. Mag. I have been using rifles chambered for belted cartridges since the 1960s, and not once have I discovered anything to complain about. As you can see, when the maximum loads of five .300 magnum cartridges listed in six reloading manuals were compared, the .300 WSM produced an average of 45 fps in velocity for each grain of powder used. Even so, I do not consider any .300 magnum to be the ultimate brown bear cartridge. That alone makes super-stubby magnums worthwhile. Like a faithful old hunting dog that has become too old for the chase, it is not actually needed anymore, but keeping it around doesn't hurt anything either. is a bit faster than those two. Magnum cartridges than for the same number of .300 WSM cartridges. Magnum and would not whimper a bit if the rifle I carry is chambered for one of the .416s from Remington, Weatherby, or Rigby. Magnum. Riflemen who shoot competitively at extreme distances know a lot about accuracy, and if cartridges like the .300 SAUM and .300 WSM were more accurate than the others, you can bet those guys would be using one. Under perfect conditions and with perfect bullet placement these cartridges will kill deer, of course. On the other hand, when shooting game in the field, I am never conscious of a rifle's kick, and for that reason all .300 magnum cartridges feel the same. Switching to a heavy for caliber (high sectional density) bullet generally, but not always, increases the killing power score. ISS Prop House gives us the rundown on the guns used in Enemy at the Gate. Perhaps it is time we sift through the rumors and seek out a fact or two. Magnum .300 Win. 9MM.223 / 5.56 45 ACP.22 Long Rifle.22 Win Mag 12 Gauge.308 Winchester 40 S&W.38 Special View All Calibers. Using a short action sheds ounces from a rifle, and that's important when climbing a mountain steep enough to make you think each ounce you are carrying seems to weigh at least a pound. By now you are probably thinking I absolutely despise short and fat magnum cartridges, but nothing could be further from the truth. Then came a new breed of magnum cartridges without a belt, and suddenly that little band of brass just forward of the extraction groove of a case had more critics than Michael Moore at a soap-makers convention. 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